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CABLEGUY
November 9th, 2006, 03:16 AM
I have a TD 18A 182series cable dozer with a growling noise in the low side gear bearings. There is no noise when using the high side. I have read the manual on the proceedure to get to the bearing ( removing the pieces above the top plate including the fuel tank which I had just filled up). Is this something I should try to repair in the field, take to a farmers shop, or take to a mechanics shop? Also, are the bearings common and easy to find and should I think about replacing other bearings/parts while it is down? Thanks for any insight on the matter. CABLEGUY

whodom
November 9th, 2006, 06:43 AM
Cableguy,

This is an International machine, correct? Suggest you post your question on the Red Power board under the IH construction equipment section:

http://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/ ... howforum=9 (http://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=9dbae693bbd4c9a282f0bd87a8b566ff&showforum=9)

Someone over there should be able to help you out quickly.

stampmaint1
November 9th, 2006, 05:37 PM
Hi;

I have a machine just like yours. I had the entire transmission out about 10 years ago. I remember it fairly well. Yes, you do need to take the tank off. I had the fenders off as well but you may not have to. It just made it more convienent to work on. The top of the transmission comes off with the gear shift. The shifting forks will come up with it. Make sure your transmission is in neutral when to lift the top off. The high low shaft is towars the top on the left hand side. It just may be the first one you take out. The hi lo gear has a bronze bushing inside it. Mine was worn out too. You could see what else is loose once you get inside. Your service manual will get you through this. The parts are heavy and that is the worst part of it. The only shaft that will be a total pain to get out is the bottom one. It is the pinion shaft to the rear end. I would leave that one alone unless you want to real adventure. I'm sure you are on the right track looking at the hi low as your problem. I would do it myself because it is a real labor intensive job. I suppose it depends on what your time is worth. To hire it out would likey cost half of what your tractor is worth. I like mine and it was worth it to me to repair. The ring and pinion are the weak spot on these tractors. Mine was broken. You can be happy that is not your problem. It was a huge job to change that. Good Luck!

CABLEGUY
November 11th, 2006, 08:38 AM
STAMPMAINT1, Thanks for the info. I printed it out and sent it to the shop where my 18 sits now. That will be very useful when we tear into it. The shop is at a local construction company who just built a new 12 bay building, plenty of room. I am buddies with theowner.
You should have seen the camotion when we drove in and unloaded. Most of the mechanics were excited to see such a vintage machine in as good as shape as it is in. It started a lot of old forgotten stories, and of course disagreements about IH/CAT/AC/TEREX equipment and cable versus hyd. controls.
The shop foreman is also going to try to tighten up the lever that raise/lower the blade(build up the cam on the CCU). Now I have to pull or push as far as my not so long arms can go. Also up for repairs is changing fan belts, tightening trunion block,oil change and air breather.
Thanks again for the help. CABLEGUY

stampmaint1
November 11th, 2006, 03:50 PM
I am very happy to be of help. I sure am glad to know that another tractor like mine is being saved. I don't think the 182 series was built for any more than two years. Kind of rare. Mine is a old Army Corp of Engineers tractor. It has the live cable lift at the front of it. It has a 12' angle dozer. If you look at the photo gallery from the 2000 National Convention you will see me on it. I had a Woolridge scraper behind it. I hauled a lot of dirt onto the dam there. It got painted yellow when the local county shop had it. They got it after it was decommisioned from the Army. Having the front live blade lift really comes in handy when you want to use a scraper. It had a Carco towing winch on it when I got it. I left it off and put on a P-29 cable control. The county had it when the rear end broke. They took it all apart and decided not to fix it. I got it more or less as a basket case. They took the steering clutches out and the top of the transmission off and just quit. I had a pickup box full of misc parts that I had to figue out where they went. Between the parts and service manual I got the job done. Tell me some about yours. I sure would like to hear about it. Thanks.. John

CABLEGUY
November 11th, 2006, 08:42 PM
JOHN, When this gets in your blood, there is no end to what one might do to obtain one or find work using these old tractors. I went to a farm auction 3 years ago to buy any old smaller implements for my IH 300 utility tractor and walked right by the 18 not even knowing what make it was. I am a project manager/estimator for a heavy construction company(21 years) and have always loved tractors/const. equip since I was 4 or so. Removing cat manure from my sand box with my Tonka equipment was no big deal for me in the late 60's. I think a lot of operators got there start that way. When it came to bid, the owner started it up but there was only 2 bidders for a brief time, and the auctioneer tried to get more bidders to bid. I was in shock when they let it go for about $2100.00+/-. I couldn't sleep that night and ended up buying it two days later from the buyer,(a salvage man), for a little more. One of our opperators/mechanics showed me how to shift and run the brute, I had ran more modern equipt. He is jelous of me having it. He has an older D-7 that has had the trans. out for a wile. He wants to give me his cable ascraper to play with but I am hesitant to get into what seems to be a very confusing cable nightmare. Two manuals came with the 18 as well as a brief history of where it came from and what repairs have been made. Previous owners wrote down when and how much repairs cost on a notebook. I did find where the head where replaced in the late 70's. I have done about 80 hors of work for others so far with it. And have another 40-50 set for this winter/spring when it gets fixed. I usualyonly run my machines when its below 60 degrees or so(spring and fall). This is also because I am from a very rural ag region in west/cent Il and crops are in the fields in the summer of course. I also bought an Insley K-12 that I haved learned to play with and have one pond under my belt and incidently moved it to another one when we retrieved the 18. Have my eye on a 1940's-195? TD-14 that has the left final drive bearing out but can't get the gumption up to do it yet. My brother in-law has a 195? D-4 that he wants to sell me. It is in great shape and has been shedded al it's life. Anyway thats probably enough for now. Talk to you later, LAYNE